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 | | The Kinslaying was the Elves' equivalent of Man 's Original Sin. | | | Their Oath shall drive them yet betray them and ever snatch away very treasures that they have sworn to To evil end shall all things turn they begin well; and by treason of unto kin and the fear of treason this come to pass. | | | In the fiction of J.R.R. Tolkien the Doom of Mandos also called the Doom of the Noldor or the Curse of Mandos was the judgement of the Valar pronounced on the Elves who carried the Kinslaying at Alqualondë : |
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http://www.freeglossary.com/Doom_of_Mandos
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| | Silmarilion Encyclopedia |
| | Deterred by Fëanor's conduct in the Kinslaying and by the Doom of Mandos, Finarfin returned to Tirion, where he was forgiven and given the rule of the Noldor remaining in the West. | | | But when he heard the further tragedy of Melkor's murder of Finwë and theft of the Silmarils, Fëanor resolved to return to Middle-earth in pursuit of Melkor, defying the Valar and swearing the terrible Oath of Fëanor (q.v.), by which he, his sons, and Beleriand were later doomed. | | | But at last, desiring to keep his beloved Luthien from Beren, he demanded a Silmaril as her bride-price, and thus was drawn into the Doom of the Noldor. |
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| | The Chroniclers of Arda |
| | Noldolantë, 'Fall of the Noldor', was a lament of the Kinslaying at Alqualonde. | | | The Narn was later brought to Tol Eressëa by the returning Elves, from which we have most of our knowledge of the poem. | | | It is the only full account of Túrin's life, and all later writings on the subject fall back on this one. |
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| | Galadriel |
| | She refused to speak of the Oath or the Kinslaying or of Feanor's betrayal, but Thingol later learned the full story from Galadriel's brother Angrod. | | | Galadriel did not participate in the Kinslaying, and she may even have tried to stop Feanor to no avail. | | | Galadriel falls in love with Celeborn and decides to remain in Doriath. |
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| | The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum - Finrod and the Kinslaying |
| | But his sons were not with him, for they would not forsake the sons of Fingolfin; and all Fingolfin's folk went forward still, fearing to face the doom of the gods, since not all of them had been guiltless of the kinslaying at Alqualondë. | | | It's not that we (the Elves) are guilty of eating the apple (participated in the Kinslaying) ourselves -- it's just that the epitome of humanity, the foremost being created of God, Adam himself (Feanor himself) demonstrates that humans (Elves) are capable of disobedience and evil. | | | I think that it could be said also that Finrod had fallen because even thought he knew about the Kinslaying, he let his pride get the better of him and still followed the Kinslayers to ME. His father repented after the Doom of Mandos was uttered, Finrod didn't. |
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http://forum.barrowdowns.com/archive/index.php/t-10608
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| | Twelfth Ring: Wreath Of Steel And Silver (Author's Notes) |
| | As it is, I had a bitch of a time getting her into the action at all, what with Finarfin's kin being clean of the Doom of Mandos and all. | | | Author's Comments: My initial image was of Galadriel having this deep dark past as an active participant in the Kinslaying, some sort of "grim avenging valkyrie" imagery to place at direct odds with her current "sweet elven lady" schtick, but I had to revise this as I read the events more closely. |
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| | More Silmarillion Images |
| | The Haven was so named because the Teleri reached Aman with the aid of great swans; these towed their enchanted ships the last stage of the Great Journey, from Eressea to Eldamar. | | | The First Dawn of the Sun - The Maia Arien, a powerful spirit of fire(perhaps akin to the Valaraukar before there corruption by Melkor) is chosen by the Valar to guide the Sun (Anar) | | | Fingolfin leads the Noldor, at great hardship, across the Helcaraxe(Grinding Ice).They view the Moon's first appearance(Ithil) as they set foot on Middle-Earth and greet it with silver trumpets. |
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| | Whatever else, Elrond did not condone kinslaying, and would do nearly anything to prevent any elves’ death being his own fault. | | | He knew that there would be no forgiveness for him when this was all over. | | | So he passed on the word to all he passed, as much as it pained him, to kill if necessary. |
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| | Swansinging by Martin Baker |
| | Whatever these details the Swan-ship of Lothlórien was, for Galadriel, much more than a pretty way to sail down the river - it was an affirmation of her Teleri lineage and an homage to those of her grandfather's house whose blood was shed upon the silver shores in the West. | | | In one version, related in Unfinished Tales, it is said that Galadriel took up arms against Fëanor in defence of her mother's people: whatever the truth of that it must be certain that she took no part herself in the Kinslaying. | | | To them the bird betokened their love of the sea, their friendship with Ulmo and Ossë, and the promise of passage into the West. |
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| | Redemption of the Noldor by Cirdan |
| | Many of the Noldor quickly understood kinslaying to be cruel, unjust, and evil. | | | If you were to read about the Fall of the Noldor, Noldolante, you would understand the history of the Noldor. | | | You would know about the theft of the Silmarils, the Flight of the Noldor, and the actual Fall, the Kinslaying at Alqualonde. |
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http://www.freewebs.com/edhellond/cirdan/redemption_of_the_noldor1.htm
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| | Maeglin |
| | For it seemed to her a thing strange and crooked in him, as indeed the Eldar ever since have deemed it: an evil fruit of the Kinslaying, whereby the shadow of the curse of Mandos fell upon the last hope of the Noldor. | | | And however that might be, Idril loved Maeglin not at all; and knowing his though of her she loved him the less. | | | But as the years passed still Maeglin watched Idril, and waited, and his love turned to darkness in his heart. |
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| | Entmoot - Rebels at the 3rd kinslaying |
| | He did fight the Feanorians at the eastern border of Doriath, and that does mean he was smart enough to know they would attack him after the not very fruitful talk to Curufin. | | | I do not get that impression, and I think the people of Elwing would not give in on anything to Maedhros and his brothers after what had happened in Doriath. | | | News of the first Kinslaying for instance, causing a rift between the Noldor and Teleri in Middle-earth. |
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http://entmoot.tolkientrail.com/showthread.php?t=11633
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| | Kinslaying and Tyrion - www.ezboard.com |
| | Grrm has made a point of imparting upon us the doom at befalls a kinslayer. | | | The gods hate nothing more then a man who slays his kin. | | | So,we have GRRM's favorite character (i think he said as much in an interview) killing the man who everyone assumes is his father. |
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http://p207.ezboard.com/ftheboardbeyondthewallfrm2.showMessage?topicID=118.topic
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| | RingQuest - Finarfin's choice |
| | Well, If Finarfin is so fair, why did he have to wait for the Doom to be pronounced and not abandon the quest after the Kinslaying in Alqualonde. | | | Why did he had to wait for the Valar to pronounce their doom? | | | I interpreted it that he decided to stay with those of his people who would repent of the kinslaying and stay true to the gods. |
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http://www.ringquest.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1009
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| | 1495 Galadriel fights alongside her kinsmen, the Teleri, in the first Kinslaying (according to Unfinished Tales). | | | 1496 After the Kinslaying, Mandos curses the Noldor and exiles them all. | | | While she does not hold the same grudges against the Valar and Morgoth as Fëanor, she is eager to see Middle-earth and rule her own lands. |
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| | Till the Day I Die, by Erunyauve |
| | Other theories put Glorfindel in Finarfin's clan (due to his golden hair), absolving him of any part in the Kinslaying. | | | How much more wrath do you think is destined to fall upon one of the Dagwenin?" | | | With time, he hoped, his father would see that his objections were futile. |
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http://www.freewebs.com/edhellond/erunyauve/till_the_day2.htm
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| | Idril Celebrindil |
| | Turgon, Elenwë and Idril and their people left Valinor under Fingolfin, after the host of Fëanor and his sons, who betrayed them when they were about to cross Helcaraxë, the Grinding Ice, in the ships stolen from the Teleri Elves in the First Kinslaying at | | | Gathering of those who escaped the Second Kinslaying and the sack of | | | Turgon, his wife and daughter, had to cross Helcaraxë by foot and at the crossing was Elenwë his wife lost and he only had his daugther Idril left. |
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| | The Raid of Varmandsstead |
| | But Orlanth smiled upon us for he knew our cause and honour to be true and with his aid, the keen-eyed Killer Korol gave warning of the attack before the craven Orlevings and their kinslaying master could burn us in our beds. | | | There would be revenge for Wakboth's foul deeds. | | | Varmand's booming voice cut through the din with a command directed at his youngest son. |
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| | Ñoldor - Encyclopedia.WorldSearch |
| | A messenger from the Valar came and delivered the Prophecy of the North, pronouncing doom on the Ñoldor for the Kinslaying and warning that if they continued they would not recover the Silmarils and moreover that there would be great grief in the tragedy that would befall them. | | | Because Fëanor had taken the ships and left the Ñoldor led by his half-brother on the west side of the sea, the royal houses of the Ñoldor were feuding, but Fingon son of Fingolfin, whom Fëanor had left behind, saved Maedhros, son of Fëanor, from Morgoth's evil and the feud was settled. | | | At this, some of the Ñoldor who had no hand in the Kinslaying, including Finarfin son of Finwë by Indis, returned to Valinor, and the Valar forgave them. |
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| | myprecious.co.uk |
| | After Fëanor's death, his eldest son Maedhros should have become High King of the Noldor, but Maedhros repented his deeds at the Kinslaying and refused the title, which thus passed to Fingolfin. | | | He ruled the lands to the northwest of Beleriand with his sons Fingon and Turgon, and dwelt behind the mountain fences of Hithlum during the long Siege of Angband. |
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| | L a d y o f L o r i e n |
| | Galadriel seeks forgiveness for her part in the Kinslaying at Alqualondë. | | | Author's Note: Galadriel is not one of my favorite characters but she's been whining for a story ever since I recently re-read the Silmarillion. |
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| | Felagund |
| | Sauron locked the twelve into a pit, and threatened to slay each cruelly, if they would not tell him the true identity of Felagund. | | | Softly in the gloom they heard the birds | | | But the song of Sauron then turns to the doom of the Noldor, to the kinslaying of Aqualondë and the doom of Mandos, and Felagund is stripped of his power: |
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| | The Chroniclers of Middle-earth |
| | It is the only full account on Túrin's life, and all later writings on the subject fall back on this one {1}. | | | Unfortunately, Dírhavel was killed when the sons of Fëanor finally attacked the Havens of Sirion in the third and last Kinslaying {2}. |
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| | Morgoth's best ally, Feanor? - THE TOLKIEN FORUM |
| | The kinslaying, the oath which ultimately led so many to doom, and the leaving of so many to take the treacherous journey to the north when sailing without them to middle earth have it that Feanor himself was unintentionally a great enermy to his own race. | | | By the time Feanor got to Middle-earth, he was the corrupted leader of a corrupted people and Melkor had used much of his might in his works of Middle-earth. | | | Think about all the damage which Feanor brought upon his race through his hatred of Morgoth. |
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| | thegoat - review: kane and abel |
| | Kane then went on to a life of sin and debauchery, solidified his experiences in the best selling book The Art of Kinslaying (by Kane, Flatulence Publications, $29.95 RRP), and has had us paying for his sins ever since. | | | Abel put on a bandana and came at Kane with a knife, so Kane threw him off a cliff. |
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| | The fall of Fëanor gave way to a kinslaying in Valinor, and he and all his kin sought exile in Middle-earth. | | | Orcs were bred from Elves from the time they were woken at Cuiviénen, and the hearts of many others were tainted by Morgoth. | | | But the damage this had done would not cease for the next Age, and until the Valar intervened, there was naught but strife to be found in Middle-Earth. |
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| | Eluréd and Elurín : OOC: Character summary of the Twins. |
| | They are malnourished, scarred from encounters with unfriendly beasts, dirty, dressed in rags and have regressed to speaking only their own dialect of twinspeak - a gibberish only they understand that has some faint resemblance to Doriathrin Sindarin as that was the dialect they spoke before. | | | Following such, at the time of the kinslaying, when the twins were 11 they would be the equivilent of a human child 4.4 years of age (though I take liberties with how mentally advanced they were at the time). | | | The twins survived however, avoiding wolves by climing trees, using their small knowledge of edible plants to barely sustain themselves and sheltering in some of the less ravanged caves of Menegroth over the 5 years since the kinslaying. |
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| | The Grey Havens - Elves: The Exile of the Noldor |
| | The latter refused without the consenting of the Valar. So the Noldor attacked Alqualondë and stole the boats. | | | That kinslaying was the curse of the Noldor which followed them all th time of their exile. | | | The Noldor kept going north to Helcaraxë where Middle-Earth and Aman were nearly touching. |
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| | Encyclopedia: Timeline of Arda |
| | The main part of this article relates to the version of Middle-earths history that is considered canon by most Tolkien fans who accept such labels (see: Middle-earth canon). | | | Prophecy of Mandos: the Ñoldor are banished from Valinor, and foretold great doom; the Valar hide Valinor behind the Magic Isles and raise the Pelóri mountains | | | Fëanor and his sons swear an Oath to regain the Silmarils and the majority of the Ñoldor depart from Valinor; Ñoldor kill many Teleri and seize their ships in the First Kinslaying |
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| | Ringbearer.Org |
| | She did not do this for love of Feanor, nor to help regain the stolen Silmarils, but because she had a desire to see Middle Earth again and rule her own lands. | | | Galadriel was kin to King Thingol of Doriath (through her mother) and often spent time there. | | | It is believed that she took no part in the Kinslaying at Alqualonde. |
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http://www.ringbearer.org/modules.php?op=modload&name=Sections&file=index&req=printpage&artid=56
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| | Middle-earth -- Facts, Info, and Encyclopedia article |
| | The first (Click link for more info and facts about Kinslaying) Kinslaying thus ensued, Fëanor and many of his followers attacked the Teleri and stole their ships. | | | But the Fëanorians again demanded the Silmaril be returned to them, and after their demand was rejected they resolved to take the jewel by force, leading to the third Kinslaying. | | | The Fëanorians destroyed Doriath and killed Dior in the second Kinslaying, but Dior's young daughter Elwing escaped with the jewel. |
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| | cookie-cutter comments :: natural disasters part 2: kinslaying? :: August :: 2005 |
| | This whole damn thing stinks of kinslaying to me. | | | I’ll have to read up more on the specific debates, if I have time, but the point is that such internecine killings will continue unabated if nothing is done to reconcile these very real differences. | | | cookie-cutter comments :: natural disasters part 2: kinslaying? |
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http://xpyre.blogsome.com/2005/08/31/natural-disasters-part-2-kinslaying
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| | The Real Idiot's Guide To The Silmarillion |
| | The only natural light in the world before the Trees were made came from the Stars, of which there were two separate creations by Varda: the first, dimmer, stars, and then after that, the brighter constellations. | | | 3) There is no natural ambient light during the First Kinslaying. | | | It's pitch black out at first, and even afterwards, although the stars would be brighter than most of us have ever seen them, unless we live in remote desert regions, or in the high north, or go out to sea, it would still be dark. |
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| | [ELFWOOD] SF&F Art / Katherine 'Kitteh' Hallberg / 'noldolantë' |
| | Of the Kinslaying at Aqualondë more is told in that lament which is named Noldolantë, the fall of the Noldor, that Maglor made ere he was lost.' | | | You have no reason to be ashamed of your painting skills. | | | Amazing...this really captures the whole mood of the kinslaying. |
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| | Re: Feanor and evil |
| | However, I don't view Silmarillion as mere literature, but more as a true mythology, which has multiple layers, and room for more then one absoulte truth and one possible interpretation. | | | I'm not arguing about how Tolkien saw the Kinslaying or what his point was. | | | Of course it's relevant, because whether or not the Kinslaying would be evil in a purely hypothetical situation is _not_ relevant. |
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| | A Father's Wish |
| | Summary: Galadriel finally reaches Beleriand at great cost - and discovers that although Fëanor is dead, she cannot escape him. | | | Summary: Strife between the three sons of Finwë, as the Noldor prepare to leave Valinor. | | | Summary: The promise Galadriel made to Fingolfin finally comes to fruition, and Thingol finds out about the Kinslaying. |
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| | Chronology of the Silmarillion |
| | Angrod remembers Caranthir's words and speaks out in bitterness telling Thingol all concerning the Kinslaying at Alqualondë and the ship burning at Losgar. | | | Mandos curses Fëanor and all the Noldor who follow him. | | | Having the sons of Finrod there he rebuked them. |
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| | The Chronicles of Oakthorne |
| | Ill for the All-Mother Denev, who knew her crime of kinslaying, punished by having the essences of her brothers and sisters spilt the length and breadth of her body, scarring, searing and giving her pain. | | | Ill for the races and beasts of Scarn, trapped between warring behemoths and used as minions and fodder in the Titanswar. | | | Ill for the Titans, who were thrown down to a one and rent asunder. |
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| | The One Ring For Online Tolkien Fans The Lord of the Rings Source |
| | Simply saying the words "I am sorry" was hardly enough to make up for the Kinslaying. | | | September 2, 2004 : 4:23 PM I figured she disliked Sinyetaime because of the Kinslaying since she was already so bitter about it, but I'm still curious if you're going to tell us more about his exact role in the event.... | | | He had been one of Findekano's* followers, who came to the Havens after Feanor had began the Kinslaying. |
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http://www.theonering.com/comments.cfm?Item_ID=17538&Item_Type=articles
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| | Re: Elves & the fear of the Dead |
| | HOwever, those directly involved in the Kinslaying are > hardly representative of the entirety of the Firstborn. | | | Elves spend some time Mandos, reflect upon things, and when they are > ready, they are released and re-embodied. | | | Many of the elves that were slain did nothing wrong. |
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| | Bargaining for Beginners, by Honesty |
| | When he returned home, he swore, kinslaying or no, he would wrap Gorin's guts round his neck and choke the life out of him. | | | Why should I harm him, he asked himself vehemently, when he has harmed none? |
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http://axebow.hakaze.com/fic/fic-honesty-bargaining.htm
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| | Nevrast: Etymology |
| | The Noldor accepted Sindarin for general use, but Quenya remained in use by the lords of the Noldor and as the language of lore. | | | But when Thingol, king of the Grey Elves (the Sindar) learned of the kinslaying in which his brother, king of the Teleri was slain, he forbade the use of Quenya in his realm. | | | The Elves of Valinor, the Calaquendi, spoke Quenya whereas the Moriquendi spoke Sindarin. |
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| | The Citadel: So Spake Martin - Correspondence with Fans 4/5 |
| | Fighting a battle in which a brother dies might be frowned upon, but killing him with your own hand would be considered far worse. | | | There are degrees in kinslaying, as in anything else. | | | A ton of us Boarders have been debating the taboo against kinslaying in Westeros, and have been trying to define exactly what "kinslaying" is. Is it limited only to the situation where you kill a kinsman by your own hand, or would it include anything that leads to the death of a kinsman? |
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| | UserFriendly Strip Comments |
| | Lothlorien was set up by the Noldor exiles, not the Sindar... | | | they only spoke Sindarin there because of the unpleasantness in Beleriand over the Kinslaying... | | | Come get yer ARS (Account Registration System) Source Code here! |
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http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/read.cgi?id=20040320&tid=1091887
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