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 | | Radagast -- A Maiar man. Known as "Radagast the Brown". | | | Sauron -- A Maiar man. Known as "Sauron the Sorcerer". | | | Eonwe -- A Maiar man. Known as "Herald of Manwe". |
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http://i.1asphost.com/tamuril/gods.html
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| | MERP 2006 Valar Maiar |
| | Note: ICE's Valar and Maiar is a revised compilation of material previously published as part of the work entitled Lords of Middle-earth, Volume 1: the Immortals: Elves, Maiar, and Valar. | | | In Valar and Maiar you learn about Balrogs, as well as all the other greater spirits (good and evil) inhabiting J.R.R. Tolkien's marvelous world. | | | Overviews describing the general nature and history of all the "Holy Ones," the immortal Ainur, including the fallen spirits known as the Great Enemies. |
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http://www.icewebring.com/ICE_Products/M2/M2_2006_Valar_Maiar.shtml
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| | The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum - Ëalar and Incarnation. |
| | When looking at Tolkien's quote "In summary: I think it must be assumed that 'talking' is not necessarily the sign of the possession of a 'rational soul' or fëa", we should be careful to distinguish between language and the act as talking just as well as the author did. | | | Oblo, would you say that those spirits are maiar too, or something else. | | | Oblo, would you say that those spirits [Eagles] are maiar too, or something else. |
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| | Tolkien Literature Resources - Glossary - Maiar |
| | The Maiar were a lower order of Ainur (below the Valar) and as such, were the demi-gods of Middle Earth in a sense. | | | Sailers often cried to her because she alone could calm the storms made by Ossë. |
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| | The Grey Havens :: View topic - Maiar in Middle-Earth |
| | But to me that would be a great injustice to the world of Tolkien which is necessarily full of inexplainable magical things, because that is the nature of a good story. | | | Of course this quote could be taken to mean that anything remotely strange in middleearth is the doing of invisible maiar: every talking hound and every moving tree. | | | And seriously, absolutely no disrespect intended, but if people such as the ones working on Encyc of Arda has come to the conclusion mentioned above, then I are more inclined to trust their judgement then yours. |
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http://tolkien.cro.net/board/viewtopic.php?p=37422
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| | Wizards Community - Was Gandolf epic? |
| | Most, if not all of the Maiar, had a Vala "master." They are not Morgoth's "creatures" in the sense that he created them, but they are definietly his servants. | | | Basically, if the Maiar are lesser gods, and the Valar are the greater, the "miscellaneous" things like the Wizards should be Demigods. | | | His powers are in-and-of themselves, not granted through faith in the Valar or the spirit of nature (indeed, the Maiar predate the physical existence of Middle Earth) so cleric and druid don't apply, either. |
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| | Lord of the Rings -> The greatest of the Maiar |
| | The sun and the moon are indeed Maiar and those of us who have read "Of the Sun and Moon" know that. | | | But I don't think the Simarillion said anything about who was the most powerful Maiar. |
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| | Gandalf |
| | His ways took him often to the house of Nienna, and of her he learned pity and compassion. | | | It was Saruman, a betrayer, who shut him up on the pinnacle of Orthanc. | | | And as the fate willed he came back to Middle-earth to accomplish his Cause in the form of Gandalf the White. |
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| | Principles of Tolkien's Magic |
| | Now the Valar took to themselves shape and hue; and because they were drawn into the World by love of the Children of Ilvatar, for whom they hoped, they took shape after that manner which they beheld in the Vision of Iluvatar, save only in majesty and splendour. | | | Beorn could clearly talk to beasts as well, and there were birds which acted as spies for Saruman. | | | Illusion: Both Gandalf and Saruman could make themselves appear as someone else or to make one object appear as another. |
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| | Valaquenta - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia |
| | Chief Maiar: The highest ranking Maiar are Ilmarë (poss ‘Heavenly Light’ or ‘Star Light’) and Eönwë (poss ‘Strong Son’). | | | He begins with a lust for the ownership of Light but, being denied this, he takes Darkness and uses it as a weapon against Light, thus infusing Darkness with a fear. | | | He also lived for a time in Lórien, but he studied pity and patience under Nienna. |
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| | Planet-Tolkien.com |
| | By the time of the War of the Ring few Maiar remained in Middle Earth, and although Middle Earth is still a magical, fantasy world, it is lacking the magic of Valinor. | | | He shows the hobbits that there is good beyond The Shire, as someone already mentioned, but also because he isn't affected by the ring he shows that evil isn't all pervading and that there are things that can resist or are wholly separate from darkness. | | | Nice post, Nell, though I do not have much time at present to attempt an answer that it deserves. |
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| | @forums - "The Silmarillion": Valaquenta - Discussion Open. |
| | "For of the Maiar many were drawn to his splendor in the days of his greatness, and remained in that allegiance down into darkness; and others he corrupted afterwards to his service with lies and treacherous gifts. | | | Account of the Valar and Maiar according to the lore of the Eldar | | | He too dwelt in Lórien, but his ways took him often to the house of Nienna, and of her he learned pity and patience." |
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| | Awaken |
| | The simplest, perhaps, is a comment he once made to an interviewer that "Gandalf is an angel." Not necessarily in the Judeo/Christian sense of the term, but definitely in the sense of his own invented creation mythology for Middle-earth. | | | In that chapter is published a rough version of narrative describing the council of the Valar in which they discuss the need to send emissaries to Middle-earth to help in the struggle against Sauron. | | | This is straight out of The Silmarillion, in his description of the creation of the Ainur -- the Valar and Maiar ("archangels and angels") before the beginning of Time. |
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| | Melkor's Maiar - THE TOLKIEN FORUM |
| | I think he probably would have had some Maiar under his teaching, had he not turned to evil so quickly and got himself kicked out of the ranks of the Valar. | | | You may have answered partially answered your own question in your second post.It was probably his power and majesty that drew those Maiar that would follow him. | | | Was it because he was the mightiest of the Ainur and because of that he NEEDED no Maiar to help him in his labours? |
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| | The Community of Tolkien Lovers |
| | Sauron in particular was a dangerous Maiar, because he took a long time to learn "magic" and had no qualms about using it to further his own ambitions. | | | He has two maiar of particular note, Curumo who came to Middle-earth as Saruman, and Sauron, he also inspired the Elf Fëanor, who crafted the Silmarils. | | | Power-wise he is slightly stronger than Gandalf the White, but whereas Gandalf (and the other Istari) have rules governing what they can do, Sauron has no such limitations placed upon him, and he can use his full powers to attempt to subdugate peoples, as we see in both the film adaptation and the book. |
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| | Radagast the Brown |
| | This group was created by the Valar (who created the Maiar) in order to watch over middle earth and protect it from any evil. | | | Sauron was once a Miar but he grew power hungry and turned evil. | | | Iluvatar, who is like the High God of the Tolkienverse created both the Valar and the Maiar, but the latter were like the Valar's helpers. |
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| | Neverwinter Nights: Balor / Balrog - Tolkien vs D&D? |
| | I hate to disappoint you, but my copy of The Complete Guide To Middle Earth says they're Maiar as well. | | | Keep in mind that this book, and most likely the Illustrated Encyclopedia use more than just the books themselves. | | | A Balrog were Maiar Demons (which include the likes of the winged beast of the Nazgul and werewolves). |
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| | Compare Prices and Read Reviews on El Silmarillion at Epinions.com |
| | Valaquenta is a short section with small subheadings of "Account of the Valar and Maiar according to the lore of the Eldar, Of the Valar, Of the Maiar" and "Of the Enemies." The first piece is a brief summary of what has just been read, Ainulindalë. | | | I am simply giving you a something familiar to compare these characters to. | | | Here is written about his frightening greatness and how Maiar were drawn to him from it, and this is what Sauron is – a Maiar. |
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| | Legends and histories about his deeds, stuff like that." Anna says, "Well, the Elves probably have more than we do, but we do have some books." She shows you to the section with various Elven works. | | | Kanna raises annother eyebrow at that little bit. | | | Doriath had been able to shield his kingdom from Morgoth with the aid of his wife, Melian, one of the Maiar. |
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| | The Maiar visit Earth, but their home is in Valinor, which isn’t exactly heaven, but close. | | | For those of you who are cretins and don’t know, a Maia is a servant angel in Tolkien’s world. | | | Maiar have the ability to change their sex. |
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| | Total Tolkien - Question about the Valaquenta |
| | Although I'm not so sure as they are Maiar. | | | What I want to know is what other order did Eru send into Eä? | | | Ea is the middleearth and valinor...when eru said that he sent some orders on Ea he ment by maiar and valar...both of them contain ainur.....as diamond said in her quote:"wether maiar and the valar,or any other oder.....so the valars and maiar are not the answer....possibly some other. |
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| | Maiar |
| | Lords of Middle-Earth, Vol 1 - The Immortals: Elves, Maiar, and Valar (Middle Earth Role Playing/MERP #8002) | | | Valar & Maiar: The Immortal Powers (MERP/Middle Earth Role Playing #2006) | | | glimpse of the True Joy, and to speak for all things: Valar, Maiar, incarnate angels, Elves, Dwarves, ents, hobbits... |
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| | KMC Forums - Ilúvatar and the Ainur |
| | Eru created the Ainur who where immortal spirits or gods.When the enterd Arda they split into two groups.The Valar(15 of them) and the Maiar(alot of them but only a few are mentioned).The Valar are the senior gods the Maiar the lesser. | | | Eru (Ilúvatar/the Flame Imperishable) Is the god of Arda (Middle Earth and the Unding lands) | | | The Istari or five wizards are also of the Maiar they are... |
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| | One Risus to Rule Them All... |
| | Saruman falls to the seduction of power embodied in the One Ring and Sauron, while Radagast retreats to the isolation of nature forgetting his divine charge. | | | Closer to the original source of creation are the gods of Middle-earth also known as the Valar and their kin and servants, the Maiar. | | | Another manifestation of magic in Middle-earth may be referred to as wizardry or sorcery and is rarer and more elusive than the inherent enchanted nature of elves, dwarves and orcs. |
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| | Choice of the Half-Elven |
| | By the time Aragorn was born, all that was left to him was healing, his foresight, a will strong enough to contest even that of Sauron, and the nobility of his blood. | | | For all important purposes, the Maiar are divine beings. | | | Maiar had great power, greater than the Elves because the Maiar were divine beings. |
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| | Tolkien Gallery, Page Three |
| | Here he is shown in this author's interpretation extending a protective hand for a Swan Ship sailing out to the Great Sea; following are lesser Maiar controlling the currents and winds. | | | The closest translation may be Chanticleer, as the |
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| | The Ainur: The Maiar |
| | He often walked bodiless among the Elves, whom he loved, and sometimes took form as one of them. | | | Like the Valar, the Maiar were sometimes called gods by mortal Men, but this was erroneous. | | | Olórin: he is the wisest of the Maiar, and dwelt in Lórien, but often visited Nienna and from her learned patience and pity. |
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| | JoeUser.com - JoeUser.com: Lord of the Rings: Background - Sauron and Gandalf |
| | No one really knows what the deal is with them. One was named Radigast the Brown who makes only a brief appearance in the book and the other two are referred to as the "blue wizards" and just went off into the east never to be seen again. | | | The most powerful, at the start, of them all possibly. He was the most powerful being in Middle Earth. | | | But he's already had his physical body destroyed twice. |
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| | Magic in Middle-earth |
| | By arriving to Middle-earth their souls have closely bonded with their physical forms, even to the extent of Saruman's physical form (together with its needs: greed, the wish for more and more power etc.) prevailing over his soul in the end. | | | Even the Valar and the Maiar, the most powerful of all, have difficulties in changing their physical shape once they become used to it, which can be explained as their habit (just as a person can get used to a particular suit). | | | Since the first time their leaders were brought to Valinor, they have been studying magical powers from the Valar and the Maiar, mostly those concerned with artifact creation (the Noldor) or the coexistence with nature (the Sindar). |
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| | GreenBooks.TheOneRing.net™ Question & Answer Month of 07/03 |
| | I believe the volcano held a frightening power, yet Sauron knew he could master it; for he was originally of the Maiar of Aulë, and therefore the great works sprung from molten earth and the forging of items was already very familiar to Sauron, and his skill was innate. | | | I would be very surprised if he didn't use all the power at his disposal in this battle, certainly including the ring, but not even Elven rings are omnipotent and it was, clearly, no guarantor of saving his life. | | | Gandalf (Olórin) and Sauron are both Maiar, but Maiar have different levels of power -- and those levels of power can change, as in the case of Saruman and Sauron, whose power is dissipated beyond recollection at the end of the book. |
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| | What is Tom Bombadil: A Maia? |
| | This is a very familiar argument, but despite the criticisms and alternate suggestions discussed below its strength cannot be emphasized enough: any other claims about Bombadil's nature are in a way presumptuous, as they require us to add new dimensions to Middle-earth without direct support in Tolkien's canonical writings. | | | This is not proof that Tom is not a Maia, but that theory leaves the question of his immunity to the Ring unanswered. | | | There is also at least one argument against the idea that Goldberry is one of the Maiar. |
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| | Frost Jedi :: View topic - Balrog |
| | also, by virtue of the fact that gandolf is a maiar, age really doesn't apply to him. | | | He was referring to the balrog only because he had a brief history with the dwarves of Khaza-dum and when the unleashed the balrog. | | | In essence, Gandlaf was stronger than the balrog, all beings on Middle-earth that are of the maiar are stronger than those that are evil Maiar. |
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| | Myth-ing the Big Picture |
| | The site and its creators devote particular attention to the second book of that posthumously published volume, the one for which the site has borrowed its name: ‘The Valaquenta’ — the Account of the Valar, those spirits of godly powers which created Arda, the physical arena in which Middle-earth, in turn, exists. | | | all that is, the physical world) Ilúvatar, the Brahma-like creator of the world, brought the Valar and the Maiar (known collectively as the Ainur, the Holy Ones) into being. | | | The Music of the Ainur was the symphonic incantation from which the melodic themes of life and the motif signifying all that was Arda flowed. |
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| | sffworld.com - What is Gandalf? |
| | But as Gandalf's spirit was not tied to his physical form he assumed a new form and returned. | | | This also explains how it was possible to kill Saruman who was also one of the Istari. | | | I think the maiar varied in power, so maybe that's why he didn't seem that powerful as compared to Sauron. |
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| | Hobbit/LOTR Revisited: FOTR: Book I, Chpt.7 - In The House of Tom Bombadil |
| | I see him as the embodiment of the earth in some sense, just as Goldberry is the embodiment of the River that tumbles through the Old Forest. | | | Tom Bombadil and Goldberry are Maiar, a species of "lesser gods". | | | The two classes of theories that are actually viable are 1) that Bombadil was one of the Maiar, "angelic" spirits who helped to shape and later govern the world, or 2) that Bombadil was some sort of "nature spirit" that isn't explicitly mentioned in _The Silmarillion_ (quite possibly the spirit of Middle-earth itself). |
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| | KMC Forums - The Blue Wizards? |
| | Why are there so many Maiar on Middle earth? | | | Some of the Maiar came to Middle-earth instead of staying in the land of gods; these are for example Sauron, the Balrog, the five Wizards, Melian or also Osse who often spent his time at the shores of the sea. | | | Why would those maiar choose to be Balrog? |
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| | He "is counted no longer among the Valar, and his name is not spoken upon Earth" (25-26), but he is listed here to indicate the kind of being he is. | | | It is incomplete, of course, but might help you to make sense of the myriad kinds of being named in a few short pages. | | | Those who did enter the world: The Valar and the Maiar. |
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| | Christianity and Middle-Earth: Is LotR a Christian Tale? (continued) |
| | He is faithful to Eru and all that Eru wills and his existence is spent in the service of heaven. | | | Morgoth has corrupted some among the Maiar to his ways and the power of his will still haunts the world. | | | In the Silmarillion, Tolkien’s mythology of Middle-Earth, the creation story tells us that in the beginning, Eru (God) creates powerful spirit beings called the Ainur. |
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| | Maiar - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia |
| | The Balrogs were, like Sauron, Maiar corrupted by Melkor. | | | The Maiar are those spirits which descended to Arda to help the Valar to shape the World. | | | Each of the Maiar was associated with one or more particular Vala, and were of similar stock, though less powerful. |
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| | How big were Maiar and Valar really! |
| | Gandalf is depicted as a "Frail old man" yet in standing in his order Maiar. | | | This being was very high in stature of his order, as varda put it "Nay not the Last". | | | The Balrogs were in origin Maiar, of the same order as Sauron or Gandalf. |
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| | Chief among the Maiar were Sauron, Saruman and Gandalf. | | | As to Sauron, he was an extremely powerful Maiar, but again I question his status as the greatest of the Maiar. | | | But their strengths were never openly tested against each other, so I believe that it is impossible to say with certainty which was the strongest. |
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| | Wisest of the Maiar, living in Lórien with Irmo, learning pity and patience from Nienna. | | | Mother of Lúthien and source of the Maiar blood in the lines of Elves and Men | | | The greatest of Melkor's adherents, he followed his master into the Void |
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| | Ranged against them were others, who had in the beginning been Holy Ones themselves, but who had fallen into darkness: the Dark Lord Melkor, his mighty follower Sauron, and many corrupted Maiar, including the demons known as Balrogs. | | | Each of the Maiar was assigned to the 'people' of a particular Vala. | | | The most important of these were Saruman, Sauron (originally also of Aule's people), and Olorin, known as Gandalf, who belonged to the people of Manwe and Varda. |
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| | Taking physical shape like these Maiar they were able to walk among other creatures unknown of their true origin but could be slain. | | | The Maiar aided the work of the Valar and did themselves work of renown. | | | The Maiar are, like the Valar, spirits from outside the world but of lesser degree. |
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| | There were also evil Maiar, including the Balrogs and the Dark Lord Sauron. | | | The Eagles are created by Ilúvatar along with the Ents, but in general these animals' origins and nature are unclear. | | | In the First Age the chief example is Melian, wife of the Elven King Thingol; in the Third Age the Maiar are represented by the Istari (called Wizards by Men), including Gandalf and Saruman. |
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| | The Shire Fellowship |
| | · Valaraukar / Belryg 'Balrogs, Demons', corrupted Maiar in the form of demons of darkness and fire with claws. | | | Some of the following are probably particular kinds of Úmaiar or include Úmaiar among their number. | | | Some of these may be forms inhabited by spirits, perhaps Maiar or Úmaiar, others creatures raised in intelligence and power to a higher level. |
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| | Im in the middle of reading FotR, and... - @forums |
| | I think he may be a Maiar, but I'm not quite sure. | | | The only thing that makes sense to me is that Tom is the spirit of the land itself, a wacky personification of the beautiful English countryside that Tolkien so enjoyed and was worried would ultimately disappear. | | | It's clear that other Maiar like Gandalf are not immune to the power of the ring. |
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| | 09-21-03: Re: Maiar |
| | Indeed the Silmarillion states that the Maiar were around before time, and you stated that the Valar created them to help out with earth. | | | During the Music of Illuvitar, i understood there to be only Valar present. | | | This was apparently a big deal and Illuvitar himself sort of got upset and chewed Aule out. |
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| | Middle-Earth Sock Puppet Theater: The Maiar List |
| | Can't keep track of who serves which god? | | | This list should cover all canon maiar allegiances and ones created within the game itself. | | | Listed alphabetically by name, not by order of power or importance, so no whining. |
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| | He liked the idea that some mysteries would > >remain in his world, even to him. | | | I know this > doesn't answer the question, but it is more food for thought. | | | In that case it's possible he's neither > >Maiar nor Elf nor Man, but something else entirely. |
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