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| | Primitive Elvish - where it all began |
 | | The Romance languages got their definite articles just like this: Their ancestor Latin had no word for "the", but the meaning of Latin demonstratives (typically ille, illa) was weakened to produce articles like la or el. | | | Interestingly, Quenya vakse ( vaxë) "a stain" does not come from wahtê, but from the synonymous primitive word wahsê with another ending, apparently confirming that the derivation exemplified by the primitive words in - tê was not used in Quenya. | | | But even so, the primitive language would sound pretty outlandish to him, and he would hardly recognize it as a mere variant of his own tongue. |
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http://www.uib.no/people/hnohf/primelv.htm
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| | OLDSIND |
| | This is said to be a "feminine adjectival formation" from NER "man", meaning "she that has manlike valour or strength". | | | Originally esdê was evidently a common noun "repose"; in WJ:404, Pengolodh observes that while the Quenya and Telerin forms ( Estë, Êde) had come to be used only as a name of the goddess, the Sindarin word îdh still had a general meaning "rest". | | | Here he seems to be toying with a concept that final stressed vowels were not lost, that batthô (stressed on - ô) first became bathó in Sindarin, the final vowel surviving because it was accented, the accent moving to the first syllable only later, as the classical accent pattern evolved. |
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http://www.uib.no/People/hnohf/oldsind.htm
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| | In fact, the Silmarillion Index refers to Quenya as "the ancient tongue, common to all Elves, in the form it took in Valinor" in Aman - as if Quenya was so similar to Primitive Elvish that it was merely as a later form of it, not a new language. | | | Designations of the Language The word Quenya, in the Vanyarin dialect Quendya, is an adjective formed upon the same stem as Quendi "Elves"; the basic meaning is thus "Elvish, Quendian". | | | Later the word Quenya was used exclusively as a name of this language, not as a general adjective meaning "Elvish, Quendian". |
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http://nanobot.box43.net/~pyro1588/elvish/elvish.doc
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| | ..::Languages of Middle Earth::.. |
| | After Iluvatar (God) created the Earth, there were three basic languages in Aman: Valarin, the language of the 'gods', Primitive Quendian, the language of the Elves and Khuzdul, the language of the Dwarves. | | | Primitive Quendian then split into Common Eldarin and Avarin, the languages of the Dark Elves. | | | Avarin and Khuzdul later influenced Adûnaic, the language of Men. |
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http://www32.brinkster.com/riennoraina/lesson2.html
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| | Elvish language - Iridis Encyclopedia |
| | His interest was primarily philological, and he said his stories grew out of his languages. | | | Primitive Quendian (language of the Elves in Cuiviénen) | | | Indeed, the languages were the first thing Tolkien ever created for his mythos, starting with "Qenya", the first primitive form of elvish. |
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http://www.iridis.com/Elvish_language
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| | KMC Forums - Ilkorin |
| | Original O in the verbal stem would likewise come out as long ú. | | | The primitive form is undoubtedly meant to be *jarnâ (*yarnâ) with the common adjectival ending -nâ (sometimes used to derive passive participles); the primitive word must clearly have implied "bloody" or "blood-red". | | | If we see adda as the cognate of High-elven atto, we would have to assume that Tolkien changed his mind about the phonological evolution of Ilkorin while he was writing the Etymologies (which is of course not inconceivable; the editor in LR:346 refers to "divergent forms...between one part of the Etymologies and another"). |
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http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f34/t300244.html
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| | - Valarin: the language of the Valar, the first tongue on Earth and the 'mother' of Primitive Quendian | | | Tolkien has also thought up non-Elvish languages, that were partially influenced by some Elvish languages. | | | - Avarin: the other language that Primitive Quendian split into |
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http://www32.brinkster.com/riennoraina/s_lesson.html
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| | Primitive Quendian - Result for Primitive Quendian - Meaning of Primitive Quendian - Definition of Primitive Quendian - ... |
| | Category:Middle-earth languages In Category:Middle-earth languages 's Category:Middle-earth languages of Category:Middle-earth languages, '''Primitive Quendian''' is the primordial tongue of the '''Quendi''', or Category:Middle-earth languages, which they spoke soon after their Category:Middle-earth languages. | | | Primitive Quendian split into Category:Middle-earth languages and the many Category:Middle-earth languages languages. | | | The Category:Middle-earth languages published in Category:Middle-earth languages and also later etymological essays often derived terms common to Category:Middle-earth languages in languages to Primitive Quendian bases, and a list of some Primitive Quendian words is given in an essay '' Category:Middle-earth languages '' (in '' Category:Middle-earth languages ''). |
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http://www.mauspfeil.net/Primitive_Quendian.html
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| | Conlang Directory: Fiction: Tolkien |
| | The tongue of the Valar, the angelic spirits who inspire the stories of The Silmarillion. | | | Begun as Proto-Elfin in 1915 by J.R.R. Tolkien, Primitive Elvish is the language that over time (in his fictional world) evolved into his many other Elvish languages. | | | A language to rhyme rings of power in. |
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http://www.langmaker.com/db/condir_fictiontolkien.htm
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| | Primitive Quendian - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia |
| | Quendi and Eldar (in The War of the Jewels). | | | The Etymologies published in The Lost Road and Other Writings and also later etymological essays often derived terms common to Eldarin languages to Primitive Quendian bases, and a list of some Primitive Quendian words is given in an essay | | | Primitive Quendian split into Common Eldarin and the many |
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http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primitive_Quendian
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| | Languages of Middle-earth |
| | Although the Elvish languages Sindarin and Quenya are the most famous and the most mature languages of all those that Tolkien invented for his mythology, they are by no means the only ones. | | | In addition to that, there is a separate language family that is spoken by Men, the most prominent member of which was Westron (derived from the Númenorean speech Adûnaic) or the "Common speech" of the peoples of The Lord of the Rings. | | | They belong to a whole family of Elvish dialects, that originate in Common Eldarin the language common to all Eldar, which in turn originates in Primitive Quendian, the common root of Eldarin and Avarin languages. |
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http://www.brainyencyclopedia.com/encyclopedia/l/la/languages_of_middle_earth_1.html
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| | Are Goldogrin and Qenya “primitive”? |
| | This name is in fact derived from the earliest work on the mythology: The Fall of Gondolin, composed in 1916–17, in which the Elvish language that ultimately became that of the type called Sindarin was in a primitive and unorganized form, and its relation with the High-elven type (itself very primitive) was still haphazard. | | | Certainly the description of Goldogrin being unorganized might refer more to the original manuscript of the Gnomish Lexicon, which is highly chaotic indeed, than to the actual language itself; even the greatly improved organization of the edited text in Parma 11 lacks the immediate clarity of the Qenya Lexicon, with its root-followed-by-derivatives mode of presentation. | | | Fortunately, this is a question we are now in a position to answer for ourselves, since almost all of Tolkien’s earliest linguistic writings on Qenya and Goldogrin have been published — and the answer seems clearly to be no. |
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http://www.elvish.org/Tengwestie/editorials/20040404.phtml
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| | Avarin - Ardaquenta |
| | Avarin is technically not a language, but a rather a generic qualificative for all the languages spoken by Avari, those who never settled on the journey to Aman. | | | We know that all Avarin languages come from Primitive Quendian, since all languages of the Elves are said to descend from it. |
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http://www.wildfiregames.com/tla/wiki/index.php?title=Avarin
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| | Telerin - Ardaquenta |
| | There is also a close relation with Quenya. | | | The most interesting aspect of Telerin is that it retains many phonological aspects that Primitive Quendian had. | | | Primitive Quendian -> Common Eldarin -> Common Telerin -> Telerin |
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http://intranet.wildfiregames.com/tla/wiki/index.php?title=Telerin
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| | So, like the Romance languages have then individually been developed from Latin, also Sindarin and Quenya changed individually from Primitive Quendian. | | | Both, Sindarin and Quenya, have their origins in the same language: Primitive Quendian. | | | But Tolkien not only designed various Elven languages, but also designed the changes of these languages through time until Primitive Quendian had reached either Quenya or Sindarin. |
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http://www32.brinkster.com/riennoraina/q_lesson.html
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| | Fanatics Plaza: Gondor Kingdom |
| | Both of the participles follow the word they describe. | | | This ending has the same origin as Primitive Quendian -nâ, Quenya -na or -ina. |
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http://www.lotrplaza.com/gondor/language_corner.asp
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| | Mid Main |
| | The two languages, Quenya and Sindarin, both are derived from a common base language, known as Common Eldarin (Sindarin is based off of the Common Telerin dialect). | | | Common Eldarin, in turn, is evolved from a language known as Primitive Quendian; it was the Elves' first language, finding its beginnings by the lake of Cuiviénen. |
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http://maethor.weet.us/general.html
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| | Nandorin - Ardaquenta |
| | Nandorin seems to show a close relation with Sindarin, and a somewhat further relation with Amanian Telerin. | | | Primitive Quendian -> Common Eldarin -> Common Telerin -> Nandorin | | | The Laiquendi of Beleriand probably spoke a Nandorin language (or dialect). |
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http://www.wildfiregames.com/tla/wiki/index.php?title=Nandorin
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| | Quenya Phonological Tables |
| | It also assumes having read (or being in the process of reading) his study on the Evolution of Primitive Elvish to Quenya, from which most of the data here has been extracted, yet without his excellent explanations, which are fundamental to understanding the matter fully. | | | marks the early nasalised consonants in Primitive Quendian; the others consonants shown in the table will be developped at later stages. | | | Most of the material on this page is taken from information organised and provided by Helge Fauskanger on his Ardalambion site. |
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http://www.xs4all.nl/~xelag/quenya_phonetic_tables.html
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| | The Sindarin Verb System |
| | We can only guess what the perfect active participle may be, there's no attested form. | | | primitive root vowels are also shifted - most notably, primitive -u- appears as -o- in Sindarin, but this shift is not carried out under some conditions, one of them being if the cluster -nc follows the -u-. | | | This is in fact fully consistent with the assumption that present active participles in Sindarin and Quenya are both derived from a primitive CE ending -lâ. |
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http://www.phy.duke.edu/~trenk/elvish/verbs.html
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| | Are High Elves Finno-Ugric? |
| | She has taken into account the Quenya words, their early (primitive Elvish) forms and even the stems. | | | Spoken Quenya is also likely to sound unfamiliar because of its different placement of stress: it follows a rule similar to that of Latin, while Finnish always has stress on the first syllable. | | | , is arranged around "primitive stems" from which all words are derived. |
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| | Quenya - Ardaquenta |
| | Primitive Quendian -> Common Eldarin -> Quendya -> Quenya | | | Such usage was retained in Gondor as well, though Sindarin took a greater part. |
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http://forums.wildfiregames.com/tla/wiki/index.php?title=Quenya
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| | Sindarin - Ardaquenta |
| | Primitive Quendian -> Common Eldarin -> Common Telerin -> Sindarin | | | It seems the Gondorian spoke Sindarin in a rather strange way. |
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http://forums.wildfiregames.com/tla/wiki/index.php?title=Sindarin
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| | Common Eldarin biography .ms |
| | Common Eldarin led to the later languages Quenya, Telerin, Sindarin, and various Nandorin languages. | | | Common Eldarin split off Primitive Quendian, the original language of all Quendi, or Elves, when the Eldar left Cuiviénen. |
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| | Probable Errors in the Etymologies |
| | We have no other examples of initial Primitive Quendian Ñ (as opposed to ÑG), so we cannot be sure how it developed in later Elvish tongues. | | | Sindarin rhinn "circular" under RIN should probably have been * rhenn if it is a cognate of Quenya rinda (primitive * rindâ, not given; in Sindarin, the â would cause the stem vowel i to become e by umlaut before the final vowel was lost). | | | Emending holme to * ñolme would produce a clash with a later word for "science" given in PM:360, but this is not conclusive (at best it suggests that it may be practical to accept holme as it stands). |
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| | LotR Fanatics Library: Quenya Phonology |
| | The word Sindarin (a Quenya word in itself) should be stress S in darin, not ** Sind ar in, a common mistake. | | | NOTE: these stress rules may also be applied to Sindarin, but not to Primitive Quendian, which evidently has unknown, differing stress rules. |
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http://www.lotrlibrary.com/languages/quenyaphonology.asp
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| | Valarin - Ardaquenta |
| | We know it directly influenced Vanyarin Quenya and probably all other Eldarin languages at the same time. | | | Valarin seems to be at least spoken by all the Valar, and we can probably imply that all Maiar as well can speak it. | | | Valarin is a stand alone language, and probably older than Primitive Quendian. |
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http://intranet.wildfiregames.com/tla/wiki/index.php?title=Valarin
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| | The Sindarin Case System |
| | Tolkien writes in WJ:370 "Since all final vowels disappeared in Sindarin, it cannot be determined whether or not this language had in the primitive period developed inflexional -ô. |
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| | Mutations in Sindarin |
| | It is the aim of this article to present some facts and some plausible conclusions about the nature of mutations in Sindarin. | | | A common assumption is that predicative adjectives are in general unlenited, since there is a gap created by the absence of the word 'to be' (which must have been present in primitive Elvish) and it is intuitively plausible that a mutation could not develop over this gap. | | | In principle, such arguments might apply also to S: ab- which reads in Quenya Q: apa- with variant Q: ep- - an indication for this is seen in WJ:387 where we see S: aphad(a)- from primitive ap-pata. |
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| | Tolkien Dictionary |
| | Radicals K-B-L. TI:174 suggests that this word is related to Quenya telpë, but the actual borrowing must rather be from Sindarin celeb (and the borrowing must be fairly late, for even at the Old Sindarin stage, the word was kelepe [LR.367] with no change of post-vocalic p to b; the Primitive Quendian form was *kyelepê). |
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| | Common Telerin |
| | It split off Common Eldarin at some time during the Great Journey, which itself split off Primitive Quendian, the original language of all Quendi, or Elves. |
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| | Index to the Etymologies - Explanation |
| | PQ - Primitive Quendian, the original language invented by the Elves at Cuiviénen, the ultimate ancestor of all the Elvish tongues (cf. | | | The material is organized as an alphabetical list of some six or seven hundred primitive stems, under which are listed (some of) the words they yielded in later languages. | | | A - Archaic/Ancient/Ancestral/Asterisked, used to identify the primitive forms listed, like *minitaun in the first example above. |
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| | Celeborn fan fiction |
| | Atar is listed as the primitive quendian word for father, but unfortunately the primitive quendian word for mother is not listed. | | | -On using primitive elvish: Tolkien's notes on the Green Elvish tongue are alas, few and I've followed Marnie's approach in using primitive elvish to stand in for the Green Tongue. |
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http://www.elfringham.dsl.pipex.com/lotrfic/tadpoles.html
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| | Parf Pith 'Wain |
| | SYMBOLS AND ABBREVIATIONS USED: * = unattested form, ** = wrong form, # = word that is only attested in a compound or in an inflected form (e.g. | | | Q = Quenya, S = Sindarin, Ilk = Ilkorin, ON = Old Noldorin, PE = Primitive Elvish (Quendian), vb = verb, adj = adjective, adv = adverb, interrog = interrogative, rel = relative, interj = interjection, conj = conjugation, part = participle, prep = preposition, pron = pronominal, syn. |
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| | Primitive Quendian.html - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia |
| | Look for Primitive Quendian.html in the Commons, our repository for free images, music, sound, and video. | | | Look for Primitive Quendian.html in Wiktionary, our sister dictionary project. | | | If you have created this page in the past few minutes and it has not yet appeared, it may not be visible due to a delay in updating the database. |
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| | bulgaria.ca - Primitive Snowmen |
| | They come in all shapes and sizes, rustic wood to cloth. | | | Welcome To Splinters 'n Stitches, home to Country and Primitive Handmade Crafts and Wonderful Woodcraft Patterns, with a specialty in Snowmen, | | | National Primitive Baptist Convention of the U.S.A. Primitive ideal |
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| | Vokale primitiver Wurzeln werden verschoben - am auffälligsten ist, dass primitives -u- im Sindarin als -o- erscheint, aber diese Verschiebung findet unter bestimmten Umständen nicht statt, zum Beispiel wenn die Kombination -nc dem -u- folgt. | | | Im Gegensatz dazu werden abgeleitete Verben gebildet indem eine ableitende Endung an die CE-Wurzel gehängt wird; die gebräuchlichsten Endungen sind -jâ und -tâ. | | | Die Frage nach dem Bindevokal für Endungen im Imperfekt ist ein wenig schwierig - wir haben kein eindeutiges Beispiel, aber die Tatsache, dass das A2-Verb dravo (welches abgeleiteten Verben ähnlicher sein sollte als ein P2-Verb) drammen (ich schlug) und nicht **dremmin bildet, zeigt wohl an, das dieser Vokal -e- sein sollte. |
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