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 | | I thought the Scouring of the shire was a waste of time, sure it ties up some loose ends in the books, however I would have been content to think that Sauromon just dissapeared into the mists of time and was never heard from again, The Shire bit just seems anticlimactic. | | | I always thought the scouring was important because it showed that evil lived on in one form or another. |
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| | The CHUD.COM Message Boards - TTT question (HEAVY HEAVY SPOILERS) |
| | Also, the scouring of the shire makes Saruman out to be a purely evil fella, and for some reason I don't believe he ever was. | | | Instead, the hobbits return home to learn tha evil is not the exclusive dominion of sauron, that there will still be battles to be fought in the world and that even their homeland suffered and sacrificed in the war of the ring. | | | Well, for me the scouring was the worst part of the books. |
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| | A Feature of The Phantom Tollbooth |
| | Most importantly, the loss of the politics and practical evil of the fascist Shire greatly simplifies the portrayal of evil in the film relative to the book, leaving it out of balance. | | | We are told that soon the thugs and thieves in the northern lands will be cleared out, the roads will be safe, but the character of the locals will be left untouched. | | | The complexities of Tolkien's portrayal of evil also come through in the issue of the return of the line of Kings to Gondor. |
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| | Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. |
| | Scouring of the Shire is the perfect example of how to end a story, what gives fully sense to the LOTR book, and what rips PJ´s ROTK from greatness. | | | S and discover that it is none other that Saruman, who, with his silver-tongue had come to the Shire to get some form of revenge on the hobbit-folk. | | | Sorry man. Don't know where you've been for the last three years -- 'cause if you love the scouring of the Shire so much, I would have thought you'd know what everyone else has known for a loooooooooong time. |
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| | Modulator: ROTK: Extended Edition |
| | I think the scouring of the shire needs to be in the extended edition but also i believe people should be able to know what happened to sauruman after he was locked in his tower, I mean eventualy something would happen he would have to come out or do something eventualy. | | | I don't know as I want much good stuff that was not in the book. | | | I would like to see it in the extended edition, though. |
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| | The Scouring of the Shire - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia |
| | When they discover that the evil they had fought in Mordor had come home to roost, they rouse the Shire and are able to kill or drive off the evil-doers that infested it. | | | In the final book of the trilogy, the five travellers (Gandalf the wizard and Hobbits Frodo Baggins, Samwise Gamgee, Meriadoc Brandybuck, and Peregrin Took) stay overnight at The Prancing Pony in Bree where they catch up on the last year's local events with proprietor Barliman Butterbur. | | | "The Scouring of the Shire" is the second to last chapter in J. |
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| | Re: The Scouring of the Shire in the book |
| | Re: The Scouring of the Shire in the book, Stan Brown | | | __Subject__: Re: The Scouring of the Shire in the book | | | Re: The Scouring of the Shire in the book, Elrond of Rivendell |
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| | The Fantasy Forum - The Scouring of the Shire |
| | Instead of having the ending be where no one in the Shire knew what happened to the 4, and treated them like nothing did happen, the 4 hobbits actually became heros in the Shire. | | | I don't know how much of a fan you are, but having read the books at least 15 times, when watching the movie you KNOW that none of those other 'endings' is the end. | | | I know PJ said he never liked that part of the books. |
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| | I picked the Scouring of the Shire because it is the most important part of the whole book. | | | I chose the scouring of the shire...i really loved that part in the book. | | | There's nothing that is more to the Hobbits then the Shire. |
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| | Message Boards :: View topic - Scouring of the Shire |
| | But I still would have loved to see these changes brought to a fuller realization in a scene depicting The Scouring of the Shire. | | | Tolkien didn't want to title his book with that title, but the publisher's thought that it should be that way....I vaguely recall, in effect, in the documentaries that the story was about Frodo...it was Hobbit-centric and Frodo's quest to destroy the Ring and save the Shire. | | | In reading the books, The Scouring was one of my favorite chapters. |
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| | Council-of-Elrond Forums - The Scouring of the Shire? |
| | At this point, they might as well put in about the Scouring, anyone who would diss the fillm for its length would be seen by the collective as silly; the material has to be covered. | | | I know the Scouring is out, but maybe PJ, Fran and Phillipa will give us something of the "spirit" of the Scouring. | | | The Grey Havens are in and PJ is particularly fond of that part of the books and of the films, so we all expect this to be a major tear jerker!!!! |
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| | Remember, the Shire needed scouring in that manner because of Saruman's agents there, but also because Treebeard pitied him and let him leave Isengard. | | | And "Scouring" was (IMO) the weakest chapter of the entire trilogy. |
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| | Book VI, Chapter 8: The Scorching Of The Shire |
| | We'd better just run like hell and hope the flames don't burn the whole Shire to the ground." With that Morrie threw his pack to the ground and began running, and Frodo and Pipsqueak did likewise. | | | Get in here!" Hobbie yelled, and as the four hobbits stumbled through the opening he grasped the door with his great oven-mitts (garishly embroidered Property Of The Shire), swung it shut, and relatched the twenty-three mighty latches. | | | What the hell had become of the Shire? |
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| | CliffsNotes::The Lord of the Rings:Book Summary and Study Guide |
| | The hobbits soon learn that Sharkey is their old enemy Saruman, who has ravaged the Shire in revenge for his own losses. | | | Like the evil of the Ring, the evil that besets the Shire works from within, feeding on the hobbits&; own desires. | | | Treebeard wonders if the Entwives might have made their home in the Shire, and Longbottom Leaf proves a welcome comfort to Merry and Pippin after the sack of Isengard. |
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| | We can't tolerate such wickedness in the Shire. | | | Odd Narrator: As Frodo stood, on the brink of death once more, his life about to be snatched away as he stood not at Mt. Doom but in the Shire... | | | Those thieving ruffians will take a gaffer's false teeth if they can. |
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| | The Scouring of the Shire -- The Lord Of The Rings -- Hollywood Jesus |
| | For Tolkien, the end of the story was not, and could never be, merely the destruction of the Ring and the fall of the Barad-d?. | | | Jackson?s languid, contemplative conclusion to his Return of the King will remain as symphonic—and as dissonant, to some viewers—as it was in the original theatrical release. | | | Think about picking up the book, too, and reminding or finding out for yourself what The Lord of the Rings is really about. |
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| | The One Ring For Online Tolkien Fans The Lord of the Rings Source |
| | the shire scene is so important to be true to this! | | | Why bother to build up characters as Merry and Pippin if only to rob them of their best part. | | | September 29, 2001 : 12:51 PM This part was so cool in the book. |
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| | GW Online : The Lord of The Rings : The Scouring of the Shire : The Scouring of the Shire Preview |
| | Alas, it was not to be, for insidious evil had crept into the Shire in the absence of the four diminutive adventurers. | | | Throughout the book are excellent tips and guides on how to build scenery to represent the Shire and paint your forces. | | | The main section deals with Sharkey's infiltration of the Shire and the oppression of the Hobbits at the hands of his Ruffians. |
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| | FIREFLYFANS.NET |
| | I really loved the additional stuff in The Return Of The King, as I have with the previous extended editions, but I was a bit disappointed that they left out my favorite part of the Mouth of Sauron confrontation. | | | You'll notice that whenever possible he puts in little extraneous details from the book, but he tends to select shorter elements (like the gift giving by Galadriel). | | | From The Return Of The King, Chapter IX: The Grey Havens: |
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| | Scifi and Fantasy Forum: Movies: The Lord of the Rings Movie:Archive through Dec 30, 2003 |
| | I hope people never think of the movies as a substitute for the book; because really, when it comes to Saruman and the Shire, and even to the characters of the four hobbits, the movies are way behind the book in sophistication. | | | No, the extended edition won't have the scouring of the shire either. | | | Bmat, the scouring of the shire was close to a third of the book Return of the King. |
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| | We shall also look at possible inspirations for 'the scouring of the Shire', and compare Saruman and Frodo at their last encounter. | | | Join us in #thehalloffire as we take a look at The Scouring of the Shire - Chapter VIII of the Return of the King. | | | Shirriffs guard the gates and uphold new unreasonable laws, ugly buildings sprout everywhere, and there are evil Men in the Shire who are using the Hobbits as slaves. |
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| | There were three Shirriffs in each of the four farthings of the Shire for Inside Work. | | | Frodo and his friends returned to the Shire in late 3019. | | | The Return of the King: "The Scouring of the Shire," 289, 294 |
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| | The Last Alliance Article |
| | The scenarios include all the major events of the Scouring of the Shire chapter from book VI of Lord of the Rings, as well as some fictional battles that happen while Frodo and company are away in the South. | | | The Scouring of the Shire has a good volume of new scenarios, most of which stay quite faithful to the source material. | | | The same style of Sepia-coloured sketchwork that is found in the other supplements is repeated in this book. |
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| | 01-27-03: Re: the Scouring of the Shire |
| | Ultimately, I would be pleased if the Scouring of the Shire were included in ROTK, but as there has been nothing in the plots of either FOTR or TTT to suggest imminent danger to the Shire, it would make little sense to those who had not read the books. | | | The actions taken by the Hobbits lead to the overrunning of the Shire by Saruman and his lackeys. | | | This is not to say that the Hobbits are somehow responsible for the actions of Saruman, but it illustrates the unintended consequences and risks which attended the war and which are a part of all wars. |
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| | Wittingshire: The Scouring of the Shire |
| | Like the Saruman who lays waste the Shire, modernism "has a mind of metal and wheels." The modern building in the picture below does not call to the soul, does not lift the spirit. | | | No, it's a question of worldview, a worldview that says matter is all that matters. | | | A key chapter of the story will remain missing, so I'd like to fill the hole with words. |
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| | AppleInsider - The RotK: Scouring of the Shire |
| | AppleInsider » General Discussion » The RotK: Scouring of the Shire | | | You can have things happen in novels which might be brilliant in print and don't interrupt the flow of a story, but would absolutlely kill a movie if done in exactly the same way. | | | Then the Scouring of the Shire needs to be a sequel to Lord of the Rings, but I don't think it would work as it's own movie. |
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| | 12/19/03: Someone tell me what the Scouring of the Shire means. |
| | I haven't read the books, and I keep hearing this scene/chapter get mentioned because it got cut from the movie. | | | 12/19/03: Someone tell me what the Scouring of the Shire means. |
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| | Entmoot.tk - Scouring OF the shire... |
| | i know what you mean, it should of been in the extended version, but i can see why it wasn't in the regular version (too long) also, people who haven't read the books might get lost because you'd have to read the books to understand the scouring of the shire... | | | Entmoot.tk :: Middle-Earth Related :: Films- The Return Of The King :: Scouring OF the shire... | | | Location: Some Where In The Uk Scouring OF the shire... |
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| | LotR Wiki - Gaming/Community Scenarios/Scouring Of The Shire |
| | I think this is inaccurate because the returned to the Shire as war-hardened heroes. | | | Hobbits, and the Shire itself, were involved during some of the great battles in Middle Earth, including the War of the Ring. | | | The destruction of the Shire’s beauty has the most affect on Sam, fueling his passion to free his fellow Hobbits. |
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| | It was bad enough that the Scouring of the Shire was excised, losing its essential themes on the corruption of industrial progress and the courage incited by the returning hobbits to drive out the complacency of fear. | | | There is no Scouring of the Shire sequence (but we knew that already). | | | I have no doubt this movie will be amazing beyond belief. |
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| | How does Tolkien's description of the Men at the inn immediately betray their ill intentions? | | | But in the village of Bywater all the houses and holes were shut, and no one greeted them. | | | Why does Tolkien cause the Shire to be in ruin at the homecoming of the heroes? |
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| | Spectacular Spectacular - Scouring of the Shire |
| | Its one of the best bits in the book, and also where Saruman and Wormtongue get murdered, so I guess people who haven't read the books would wonder what happened to them... | | | But I suppose it was really important, since all the characters in the books had to lose a little of their innocence, or ignorance. | | | Topic: Scouring of the Shire (Read 36 times) |
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| | Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. |
| | I say this because I know what happens, I may not know what PJ has added to the story cinematically wise but I know these books backwards and ROTK will be the most satisfying of the three. | | | The second was that led by Faramir after he had come back to Minas Tirith and told Denethor of his encounter with Frodo. | | | I wish I was the sexiest tomboy beanpole on the planet |
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| | Cytadela.pl - The Scouring Of The Shire |
| | W porównaniu z wersjami podręcznikowymi ulegli znacznemu osłabieniu, pamiętajcie jednak, że w pozbawionym superbohaterów Shire, ich umiejętności stawiają ich w gronie najpotężniejszych postaci. | | | The founding of the Shire -hobbiccy osadnicy zmuszeni są stoczyć walkę z zajmującą ich ziemie bandą goblinów i trollem dowodzonymi przez goblińskiego szamana. | | | Pierwsza z nich (układająca się w kampanię) przedstawia wydarzenia prowadzące do wyzwolenia Shire spod okupacji Sharkey'a i jego ludzi. |
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| | Include the Scouring of the Shire in the ROTK EE DVD Petition |
| | We will be eternally grateful, and will surely boost sales of the Extended Edition. | | | As we all know..or at least, as most of us know...New Line has declared that the Scouring of the Shire will not be included in the final installment of THE LORD OF THE RINGS: THE RETURN OF THE KING, even though it is a part that is looked forward to by fans worldwide. | | | I know you have been asked to include so much in the extended editions, but for us die-hard fans, and for others, please include material that has already been filmed! |
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| | VN Boards - IS the scouring of the Shire in?? |
| | This is bad news if the scouring isn't in!!!! | | | That's a shame, I loved that part of the book because it put to use all of the skills and wisdom the hobbits had acquired during their journeys, and now they didn't have Gandalf and Aragorn always protecting them. | | | I have seen stills of what looked like a gift giving scene, and Galadriel in the swan boat, neither of which were in the final movie. |
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| | [TMP] Scouring of the Shire is Here |
| | The Scouring of the Shire describes events that occurred after the fall of Sauron that were not depicted in films. | | | It's hobbits galore this week as the latest supplement for The Lord of the Rings appears with The Scouring of the Shire! | | | It would have been one more thing for the "Too many endings" complainers to run on about... |
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| | The Shire and The Grey Havens |
| | It is clearly stated in the Scouring of the Shire; Bk 3 that Frogmorton was 22 miles from the Bridge and the Three Farthing Stone just under 14 miles west of Frogmorton and 4 miles east of Bywater. | | | But both the Scouring of the Shire and the Prologue to Book 1 say that the Stone was ‘as near the centre of the Shire as no matter’, while the Shire is said in the Prologue to have stretched 50 leagues (150 miles) from Brandywine to Westmarch and nearly 50 leagues from north to south. |
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| | The Lord of The Rings: The Scouring of the Shire |
| | Wargs appear at several points through The Scouring of the Shire supplement, sometimes ridden by Orcs, at other times arriving by their own volition. | | | Here we will show you how to paint some of the characters from the new Scouring of the Shire supplement. | | | The Lord of The Rings: The Scouring of the Shire |
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| | KMC Forums - Is scouring of the shire gonna be on ROTK |
| | i didn't like the scouring of the shire | | | It would be nice to see Gandalf get his own back though. | | | Well I think Saruman is going to be dealt with pretty early on in ROTK, which would probably mean the scouring won`t be in it. |
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| | Breaking News: ROTK Extended Edition [Archive] - Stormfront White Nationalist Community |
| | 10-05-2004, 04:03 PM It seems that the Scouring of the Shire may be in the final version after all. | | | 10-05-2004, 05:31 PM It seems that the Scouring of the Shire may be in the final version after all. | | | They got around not filming the scouring of the Shire by including a brief glimpse of what the Shire would look should the Hobbits fail in their quest to Sam when he gazed into Galadriel's mirror. |
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| | Games Workshop Online Store - The Scouring Of The Shire |
| | These models are great when coming up with your own scenarios based on events from The Fellowship of the Ring or The Scouring of the Shire. | | | This blister contains 4 models for use with the The Lord of The Rings Battle Game. | | | Scouring of the Shire, is centred around small-scaleskirmishes similar to the feel established in the original Fellowship of The Ring version of the game. |
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| | antipopper: the scouring of the shire |
| | As the 5,000-strong crowd moved along the beach and foreshore area today, one man on the back of a ute began to shout “No more Lebs” — a chant picked up by the group around him. | | | This country makes me want to cry: and#8220;This Sunday every fucking Aussie in the Shire get down to north Cronulla to help support Leb and wog bashing day. | | | Bring your mates down and lets show them that this is our beach … Let’s claim back our shire.” |
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